It ain't over 'til it's over....

...and the fat lady hasn't sung yet......

Anyone interested in the three Senate races still up for grabs?

In Alaska, Mark Begich (D) leads Sen. Ted Stevens (R) by just over 1,000 votes with more than 90 percent of the total ballots counted.

In Minnesota, Sen. Norm Coleman (R) has a 206-vote lead over comedian Al Franken (D). A manual statewide recount will begins in about two weeks.

In Georgia, Sen. Saxby Chambliss (R) and former state Rep. Jim Martin (D) will face off in a Dec. 2 runoff.


Should Democrats sweep all three contests, they will control 60 seats (including Democrat/Independent Sen. Joe Lieberman of Connecticut) in the Senate, a margin that, if it held, would allow them to break Republican-led filibusters.


(BTW, the Ted Stevens story is interesting. He was found guilty on seven counts of failing to report gifts received from VECO Corp and its CEO on his Senate financial disclosure forms, and was formally charged with violation of provisions of the Ethics in Government Act. If he wins the Senate race, he will be the first convicted felon to win a Senate seat. It is also a moot point, because as a felon, he will be removed from office.

As Governor, there is talk that Palin will appoint herself to that Senate seat.....another reason why I want Mark Begich to win. )


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Well its great timing for him since Bush will be handing out pardons I would assume.

Will be interesting to see the rest of this story.

Ted Stevens just lost his Senate seat to Mark Begich in Alaska....so Sarah Palin will not have the opportunity to appoint herself to his vacated Senate seat when Stevens is ousted from the Senate for being a convicted felon.

The last best chance for Palin to seek the presidency in 2012.

One Senate seat down, two more to go.....

Saw that on "breaking news" last night....boy, I sure have learned alot this election...

spongie wrote:

Ted Stevens just lost his Senate seat to Mark Begich in Alaska....so Sarah Palin will not have the opportunity to appoint herself to his vacated Senate seat when Stevens is ousted from the Senate for being a convicted felon.

The last best chance for Palin to seek the presidency in 2012.

One Senate seat down, two more to go.....

My goodness, such hate for Sarah Palin. What on earth did she do to you for you to have such dislike for her?

I don't think Stevens should have been reelected because of the fact he broke the law, not because he is a Republican.

Just like Bill Clinton being impeached because he lied under oath. To this day most Democrats can't see to comprehend the fact that he was impeached because he lied, not because he was bonking women in the Oval Office instead of doing his job.

To this day I wonder what happened to that cigar! Did he smoke it or give it to someone as a gift?...., maybe he still has it in his breast pocket and takes it out from time to time to sniff......lol YUK!

Morgan Rowan wrote:

Well its great timing for him since Bush will be handing out pardons I would assume.

Will be interesting to see the rest of this story.

It will be interesting. I wonder are there any fugitive's like Mark Rich, or a brother to the President that need a pardon?

That's just a couple of low lives that Clinton made sure to pardon on his last day in office. And let not forget that Hillary's brother was paid very well to get that pardon for Rich. And what about the huge donation made to the Clinton Library by Mrs. Rich??

Could you imagine if Bush were to give a Pardon to a Millionaire Fugitive that paid the brother of the First Lady to get that Pardon from his Brother-in-law? And my how the tongues would wag if Bush were to give a pardon to his own brother.

The only people I am interested in Bush giving pardons to are those two Border Patrol Agents that should never have been charged in the first place.

I don't hate Palin. I don't agree with her on probably 90 percent of her positions. I also don't think she is ready to be in the Senate at this point in time. She doesn't even know who the leader of the Senate is, but could easily have appointed herself to a Senate position had Stevens won.

If she goes back to Alaska, runs that State, tosses her hat in the ring for the Presidency in 2012, hires support staff, raises funds, gives press conferences, does debates, wins the the primaries, then damn straight, she deserves to be there. I still won't vote for her, but you won't be hearing me say she's not ready.

Now insinuating that Obama is the anti-Christ and will sell his country out to the terrorists...that cuts a little closer to the idea of "hating."



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Al Frankin wins Absentee Ballot Lawsuit

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ST. PAUL, Minn. — A Minnesota judge has granted a request by Democratic Senate candidate, Al Franken for the release of information on voters whose absentee ballots were rejected.

Ramsey County Judge Dale Lindman directed the county to produce the data by the close of business Wednesday.

Franken wants the rosters of disqualified absentee voters in all 87 counties to determine if they were properly rejected in the counting of ballots for his close race with incumbent Sen. Norm Coleman.

Lindman's ruling applies only to Ramsey County, the state's second-largest county and the home of the state Capitol, but it represents a partial victory for Franken.

A key board hasn't decided whether to allow wrongly rejected absentee ballots into the statewide recount.

There is only 200 votes (out of 3 million....amazing....) seperating Franken and Coleman in the Minnesota Senate election. It is presumed that disqualified absentee ballots would favor Frankin; Coleman wanted those ballots suppressed.



The hand recount started today, and is expected to last into early December.


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spongie wrote:

Al Frankin wins Absentee Ballot Lawsuit

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ST. PAUL, Minn. — A Minnesota judge has granted a request by Democratic Senate candidate, Al Franken for the release of information on voters whose absentee ballots were rejected.

Ramsey County Judge Dale Lindman directed the county to produce the data by the close of business Wednesday.

Franken wants the rosters of disqualified absentee voters in all 87 counties to determine if they were properly rejected in the counting of ballots for his close race with incumbent Sen. Norm Coleman.

Lindman's ruling applies only to Ramsey County, the state's second-largest county and the home of the state Capitol, but it represents a partial victory for Franken.

A key board hasn't decided whether to allow wrongly rejected absentee ballots into the statewide recount.

There is only 200 votes (out of 3 million....amazing....) seperating Franken and Coleman in the Minnesota Senate election. It is presumed that disqualified absentee ballots would favor Frankin; Coleman wanted those ballots suppressed.



The hand recount started today, and is expected to last into early December.


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What's Franken's platform? What has he promised to do for the State?

Or did he promise "Change" like Obama that just about has the entire Clinton Administration working back in the White House???

I really would love to know what Franken stands for and what will he bring to the table to make him the better person for the job.

Do you happen to know sponge. I am assuming you are pulling for him because he is the better person, right?

When it comes to local politics I always vote for the best person, doesn't matter to me what party he/she belongs to.

There has been a couple of times that a Democrat has knocked on our door looking for our support and they got our vote. The reason they got our vote is because they took the time to knock on our door and explain to us what they stood for and we liked what we heard.

I have just thought of something I was meaning to ask you all here but it doesn't have anything to do with this topic so I will start a new thread.

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What's Franken's platform? What has he promised to do for the State?

Or did he promise "Change" like Obama that just about has the entire Clinton Administration working back in the White House???

I really would love to know what Franken stands for and what will he bring to the table to make him the better person for the job.

Do you happen to know sponge. I am assuming you are pulling for him because he is the better person, right?

When it comes to local politics I always vote for the best person, doesn't matter to me what party he/she belongs to.

There has been a couple of times that a Democrat has knocked on our door looking for our support and they got our vote. The reason they got our vote is because they took the time to knock on our door and explain to us what they stood for and we liked what we heard.

The story of the Coleman/Franken Senatorial election is the stuff of lyric poems or Shakespearean intrigue. It starts with a good prince who is prematurely cut down in his prime and his kingdom taken over by a rival. Six years later, his rival's reign is opposed by his successor to the throne, and the fate of the kingdom's rule lies at the hand of the tiny shoemaker who lives in the shadow of the castle.

Unfortunately, I'm not in the mood for lyric poems, so I'll just do a bullet point.....

*Paul Wellstone, a popular two term Senator in a progressive state, is killed along with his wife and daughter in a small engine airline crash just 11 days before he was expected to win his third term to the Senate. (This was six years ago).

*Minnesota law says that a dead candidate cannot run, so Walter Mondale is appointed to run in his stead, and Republican Norm Coleman is elected to the post by the narrowest of margins (not as narrow is the Coleman/Franken election, but close nonetheless).

*On the issues, Coleman is a good Bushie, and voted over 90% with Bush.

*In 2008, Coleman ran the dirtiest campaign Minnesota has seen in some time, if ever. This is one of the reason why I am pushing Franken. Dirty politics should not be rewarded.

*I've watched Al Franken since 1975 when he first appeared as a writer on Saturday Night Live, listened to him on his Air America Radio, and read three of his books. (Including "Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them .") I think I have a pretty good read on the man.

*Franken supports an enactment for every child in America to receive health care coverage immediately. He believes that private pensions and social security should be protected, wants to cut tax breaks for oil companies, increase money available for college students and cut interest rates on student loans.

*As a progressive Democrat, a very vocal "call a spade a spade" kind of guy, and having opening and repeatedly bearded the Hannity/Limbaugh/O'Reilly lion in his den, I doubt that you would like Al Franken, Jane, but he warms the cockles of my little progressive heart...

*Franken is for change, but change does not nessecarily mean a whole new never thought of before thinking, it can also mean a change to things being different from what they are right now. I liked the Clinton years, nothing wrong with appointing those who supported the Clinton presidency. I also like seeing tried and true people on Obama staff who know the ropes. (And how many people working with George W also worked with his dad and Reagan?)

(BTW, Congressman and Governors make promises to/look out for their state, the Senate deals with national and international issues.)

The Georgia Senatorial election is tomorrow, and the winner is expected to be Republican Senator Chambliss, over Democrat Jim Martin in that election.

Demorcatic Al Frankin is only 72 votes behind Senator Norm Coleman in the Minnesota recount, so that one is still up for grabs.

In other news, President George Bush, in an interview on ABC, says "I Was Unprepared For War," and "I'm Sorry" For The Economic Crisis. Interesting how this his eight years in office is playing out....

Where's Chintz (Cincy) when you need her?