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PostSubject: Obama's Aunt Living in U.S. Illegally   Sat Nov 01, 2008 12:22 pm

Obama Says He Didn't Know Aunt's Illegal
Status



The Illinois senator's aunt has been residing in Boston public
housing since her request for asylum was denied four years ago.



CHICAGO -- Barack Obama said Saturday he was unaware that one of his
relatives from Kenya was living in the United States illegally and added that
believes the appropriate laws should be followed.

The Associated Press reported Friday that Obama's aunt had been instructed to
leave the country four years ago by an immigration judge who rejected her
request for asylum from her native Kenya.

The woman, Zeituni Onyango is living in public housing in Boston and is the
half-sister of Obama's late father .

"Senator Obama has no knowledge of her status but obviously believes that any
and all appropriate laws be followed," Obama campaign spokesman Bill Burton said
in a written statement given to FOX News.

Onyango, 56, referred to as "Aunti Zeituni" in Obama's memoir, was instructed
to leave the United States by a U.S. immigration judge who denied her asylum
request, a person familiar with the matter told the AP late Friday. This person
spoke on condition of anonymity because no one was authorized to discuss
Onyango's case.

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Information about the deportation case was disclosed and confirmed by two
separate sources, one of them a federal law enforcement official. The
information they made available is known to officials in the federal government,
but the AP could not establish whether anyone at a political level in the Bush
administration or in the McCain campaign had been involved in its release.

Onyango's refusal to leave the country would represent an administrative,
non-criminal violation of U.S. immigration law, meaning such cases are handled
outside the criminal court system. Estimates vary, but many experts believe
there are more than 10 million such immigrants in the United States.

The AP could not reach Onyango immediately for comment. No one answered the
telephone number listed in her name late Friday. It was unclear why her request
for asylum was rejected in 2004.

Onyango is not a relative whom Obama has discussed in campaign appearances
and, unlike Obama's father and grandmother, is not someone who has been part of
the public discussion about his personal life.

A spokeswoman for U.S. Immigrations and Customs Enforcement, Kelly
Nantel,
said the government does not comment on an individual's citizenship status or
immigration case.

Onyango's case -- coming to light just days before the presidential election
-- led to an unusual nationwide directive within Immigrations and Customs
Enforcement requiring any deportations prior to Tuesday's election to be
approved at least at the level of ICE regional directors, the U.S. law
enforcement official told the AP.

The unusual directive suggests that the Bush administration is sensitive to
the political implications of Onyango's case coming to light so close to the
election.
One of the sources acknowledged he was not a supporter of Obama or John
McCain and said he has no plans to vote on Tuesday. He said that was not a
motive for releasing the information.

Kenya is in eastern Africa between Somalia and Tanzania. The country has been
fractured in violence in recent years, including a period of two months of
bloodshed after December 2007 that killed 1,500 people.

The disclosure about Onyango came just one day after Obama's presidential
campaign confirmed to the Times of London that Onyango, who has lived quietly in
public housing in South Boston for five years, was Obama's half aunt on his
father's side.

It was not immediately clear how Onyango might have qualified for public
housing with a standing deportation order.

Obama Aunt Found Living in Boston Public Housing
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PostSubject: Re: Obama's Aunt Living in U.S. Illegally   Sat Nov 01, 2008 12:26 pm

This is the same Aunt that donated money to his campaign and said she would
not talk to the media until after the election.

I wonder what she is going to tell us.....

Will the secrets ever stop coming about Obama? Every day there seems to be
something new!
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PostSubject: Re: Obama's Aunt Living in U.S. Illegally   Sat Nov 01, 2008 1:24 pm

Janey please - he has no responsiblity to know his aunts legal residence status - not should he use his position to find out - its a free country and her own personal business.

Dig far enough and you find things out about anyone. I'm sure McCain is related to people with skeletons too.

This is not political information -its dirt in my opinion. It doesnt matter who you try and throw it at - McCain or Obama - its just useless dirt.
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PostSubject: Re: Obama's Aunt Living in U.S. Illegally   Sat Nov 01, 2008 2:19 pm

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Janey please - he has no responsiblity to know his aunts legal residence status - not should he use his position to find out - its a free country and her own personal business.

Dig far enough and you find things out about anyone. I'm sure McCain is related to people with skeletons too.

This is not political information -its dirt in my opinion. It doesnt matter who you try and throw it at - McCain or Obama - its just useless dirt.

Morgan,

I'm not digging. Other's are doing the digging and boy are they finding a treasure chest. They are doing just as much digging on McCain, but there is nothing there.

If there was anything on McCain, anything at all, it would have been made known. But even if one thing came out about McCain he would have a hard time catching up to Obama.

You keep saying you "are sure" about so many things......Are you really "sure" there are skeletons in John McCain's closet??? Or is that all you can say in defense of the slime that has come out about Obama?

I can't believe you consider the unbelievable associations he has with terrorists, bigots, racists and all the other questionable relationships as "useless dirt"

To say this has nothing to do with politics is not what this is about. We are talking about someone that you and many others are going to try to put into power. He is not a good man, he is not someone that has proven he can be trusted.

All he has proven to the American people is that he has bad judgment in friends, he will lie his way out of any situation and he can't be trusted. He has no leadership experience whatsoever, zero executive experience......

He doesn't even have a full term of being a U.S. Senator behind him. He didn't even fulfill his promises to the people of Illinois that elected him
to the Senate. Please tell me what it is that has convinced you that he is a man of his word? He is not a leader, he is not a good person.

To tell us on this board that he cares about complete strangers while he has a brother and goodness knows how many other family members living in poverty....Are you serious?


No one knows who he really is.
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PostSubject: Re: Obama's Aunt Living in U.S. Illegally   Sat Nov 01, 2008 2:40 pm

Half Aunts - distant cousins. Lets not forget he's somehow related to Dick Cheney. That's scarey LOL

There will probably be a lot more truths half truths inuendos and allegations coming out in the next couple of days. On both sides.
This always happens.
Do we ever wonder why all these stories come out in the final days?

Everybody knows somebody who knows somebody etc.

Get out and vote, don't trust the polls. Anyone can say who they will vote for depending on who asks. But then when they get into that voting booth, who knows.

You can believe me when I say I am voting for Obama, that's the lever I will be pushing in the voting booth. As far as local elections, who knows. I have never heard so many lies and stories told on both sides. I might do eenie meenie miney moe LOL
I don't think I have ever voted straight party ticket. There are good and bad on both sides.

Many many years ago it was my opinion, that if a dog was running on the Democratic ballot, some Democrats would vote for the dog. And if a cat was running on the Republican ticket, some Republicans would vote for the cat. Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Obama's Aunt Living in U.S. Illegally   Sat Nov 01, 2008 3:42 pm

I'd be more concerned if she WASN't being deported and Obama had something to do with it. This has zero to do with the man in my opinion.
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PostSubject: Re: Obama's Aunt Living in U.S. Illegally   Sat Nov 01, 2008 11:31 pm

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I'd be more concerned if she WASN't being deported and Obama had something to do with it. This has zero to do with the man in my opinion.

Obama knew about his Aunt being here because she was at his swearing in ceremony. And I'm sorry Morgan, but it has a lot to do with "the man" Now he is saying he hardly knows her, (sound familiar?) And yet he wrote about her in his book. Every day there seems to be something else for him to deny.

He gets a pass on everything. If he becomes President is that what we are to expect? No matter what happens his excuse will be
"I didn't know anything about it" "It has nothing to do with me" LOL

When he goes back on all his promises what do you think he will say? Do you think he will tell us he never said that? Tell us he doesn't know us well enough to give us any tax break? Tell us he has never seen us before?

I feel so sorry for the woman, he could have very easily sponsored her. It's his right. He's a millionaire, he could well afford to have her come live with him.

Interesting how she is illegal and qualified for Public Housing. How did she manage that I wonder? I agree it's interesting that he is saying "throw her out, "the law is the law"...Yet he voted for Illegal Alien's to get drivers licenses.

Even though anyone that paid
attention to the facts surrounding the terrorists that attacked the U.S on 9/11 would know that between them they had up
to 32 drivers licenses. They weren't here as residents......
So they had no right to apply for a U.S. License.
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PostSubject: Re: Obama's Aunt Living in U.S. Illegally   Sun Nov 02, 2008 12:09 am

.Obama knew about his Aunt being here because she was at his swearing in ceremony.

No one is questioning whether he knew she was here. I stated her papers concerning her alien status are her own business and he has no obligation to know about it or to do anything about it.

And I'm sorry Morgan, but it has a lot to do with "the man"

Don't agree at all - sorry, don't see it.

Now he is saying he hardly knows her, (sound familiar?) And yet he wrote about her in his book. Every day there seems to be something else for him to deny.

I have lots of relatives I could wite a few words about thier impact on me but hardly know and havent seen in years.

He gets a pass on everything. If he becomes President is that what we are to expect? No matter what happens his excuse will be
"I didn't know anything about it" "It has nothing to do with me" LOL

When he goes back on all his promises what do you think he will say? Do you think he will tell us he never said that? Tell us he doesn't know us well enough to give us any tax break? Tell us he has never seen us before?

I think he'll say or do the same as McCain does when he can't keep his campaign promises.

I feel so sorry for the woman, he could have very easily sponsored her. It's his right. He's a millionaire, he could well afford to have her come live with him.

Nope, sorry. He doesnt need to care for every one of his relatives on a financial basis. It is nice you feel sorry for her though.


Interesting how she is illegal and qualified for Public Housing. How did she manage that I wonder? I agree it's interesting that he is saying "throw her out, "the law is the law"...Yet he voted for Illegal Alien's to get drivers licenses.

I dont see the correlation between issuing drivers licenses to illegal aliens to document them and bring them into the system and standing by the CURRENT laws and saying his aunt should face her consequences.

Even though anyone that paid
attention to the facts surrounding the terrorists that attacked the U.S on 9/11 would know that between them they had up
to 32 drivers licenses. They weren't here as residents......
So they had no right to apply for a U.S. License.

[b][i]I have no idea where you are going with that because from what I see you just contradicted yourself completely. They couldn't apply for a license yet they had 32 of them. I don't get the point.
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PostSubject: Re: Obama's Aunt Living in U.S. Illegally   Sun Nov 02, 2008 1:14 am

Morgan,

The point I was trying to make in regards to the terrorists being able to get a drivers license so easily even though they were here Illegally is a huge loophole for Illegal Aliens to slip through the system.

Once they have a driver's license they pretty much slip through the cracks.
Most times all one needs to prove who they are is a drivers license. Most of the time that is all that is needed to prove you are who you say you are.

They can use a new identity on any one of the several license's they have. They go to several States and apply for a license in each of them.
They make up fake names. That's what the terrorists did.

When a visitor comes to the U.S. all they need is their passport and their their home country license to rent a car and to drive here. They don't have to have a U.S. license.

Before I became a citizen I had to show my Green Card when I went to get my driver's license here. I was a Resident so I needed a license. I also BY LAW had to show my Green Card to my employer. I had to by law have it on me at all times. So when I hear all this nonsense about needing Immigration Laws I laugh because there are already all the laws the country could ever need. They just don't enforce them.

When I go to Ireland all I need to rent a car is my U.S. License. I don't have to renew my Irish License.

By passing a law allowing Illegal Aliens to have a U.S. Drivers License it makes it easier for them to slip through the system. They aren't supposed to be here to begin and are are already breaking the law with so why would you reward them with the privilege of getting a Drivers License while other's are trying to come here legally???

And he did vote for them to be allowed a license even though they are here illegally.
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PostSubject: Re: Obama's Aunt Living in U.S. Illegally   Mon Nov 03, 2008 1:02 pm

Janey wrote:
Morgan Rowan wrote:
I'd be more concerned if she WASN't being deported and Obama had something to do with it. This has zero to do with the man in my opinion.

Obama knew about his Aunt being here because she was at his swearing in ceremony. And I'm sorry Morgan, but it has a lot to do with "the man" Now he is saying he hardly knows her, (sound familiar?) And yet he wrote about her in his book. Every day there seems to be something else for him to deny.

He gets a pass on everything. If he becomes President is that what we are to expect? No matter what happens his excuse will be
"I didn't know anything about it" "It has nothing to do with me" LOL

When he goes back on all his promises what do you think he will say? Do you think he will tell us he never said that? Tell us he doesn't know us well enough to give us any tax break? Tell us he has never seen us before?

I feel so sorry for the woman, he could have very easily sponsored her. It's his right. He's a millionaire, he could well afford to have her come live with him.

Interesting how she is illegal and qualified for Public Housing. How did she manage that I wonder? I agree it's interesting that he is saying "throw her out, "the law is the law"...Yet he voted for Illegal Alien's to get drivers licenses.

Even though anyone that paid
attention to the facts surrounding the terrorists that attacked the U.S on 9/11 would know that between them they had up
to 32 drivers licenses. They weren't here as residents......
So they had no right to apply for a U.S. License.


your right Jane is this had happened to McCain/Palin they would have nailed their carcasses to the wall. As for him not knowing this woman he sure talked about her in his book. Why bother saying such wonderful things about her if you don't know her. This is the man who will be guiding us. I am literally sick to my stomach. He can't be trusted and he will have knowledge of all our secrets. i just hope we make it through the next 4 years.
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PostSubject: Re: Obama's Aunt Living in U.S. Illegally   Mon Nov 03, 2008 1:12 pm

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your right Jane is this had happened to McCain/Palin they would have nailed their carcasses to the wall. As for him not knowing this woman he sure talked about her in his book. Why bother saying such wonderful things about her if you don't know her. This is the man who will be guiding us. I am literally sick to my stomach. He can't be trusted and he will have knowledge of all our secrets. i just hope we make it through the next 4 years.

It genuinely scares me how many people are willing to give this man a pass on everything. I am just praying that the polls have been wrong. Our country could possibly take a very bad turn tomorrow. I have too much faith in America to say it would be ruined forever, but I see us working a long time to undo the damage that could come from this man being elected.

Like I said, I am still holding out hope!
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PostSubject: Re: Obama's Aunt Living in U.S. Illegally   Mon Nov 03, 2008 1:18 pm

No ones giving him a free pass here

come on guys

Why is it his business to know the legal status of his families immigration. Honestly now, do you call your aunt to ask her if she's in the country legally ?????????

And he SHOULD NOT use his political standing to find out either - that would really offend me.

I'm not saying the guy is a saint - not even saying I'm voting for him but take a step back on this one really - this is no shadow on Obama's character whatsoever.

Do you think less of Jennifer Hudson cause her brother in law is a murderer ? It's no reflection on her as this is no reflection on Obama.

I'm sure there is plenty of reasonable dirt to center on with him but surely this is not.
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PostSubject: Re: Obama's Aunt Living in U.S. Illegally   Mon Nov 03, 2008 1:26 pm

Morgan Rowan wrote:
No ones giving him a free pass here

come on guys

Why is it his business to know the legal status of his families immigration. Honestly now, do you call your aunt to ask her if she's in the country legally ?????????

And he SHOULD NOT use his political standing to find out either - that would really offend me.

I'm not saying the guy is a saint - not even saying I'm voting for him but take a step back on this one really - this is no shadow on Obama's character whatsoever.

Do you think less of Jennifer Hudson cause her brother in law is a murderer ? It's no reflection on her as this is no reflection on Obama.

I'm sure there is plenty of reasonable dirt to center on with him but surely this is not.

Morgan, I completely see what you're saying, but my problem is the pattern that continually emerges around Obama. He keeps people close to him that can help him, even if they are questionable at best. He praises them publicly, then when the truth about a person comes out (Ayers, Wright, Rezko, his aunt) he denies all wrong doing, he downplays the relationship, and people let him get away with this.

He is not a man of honor. I'm sorry, a man of honor stands by his word. If this were the first time he did the "embrace then deny" thing, I would agree with you. But his pattern is clear.

ADD: OMG Morgan I nearly choked when I saw the new Kumbaya...ROTFLMAO!
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PostSubject: Re: Obama's Aunt Living in U.S. Illegally   Mon Nov 03, 2008 1:36 pm

Well lets look at this one thing.

He said simply that she needs to deal with the laws from what I saw. He was suggesting no special treatment for her. That seems right to me.

As for the rest - I dont see a problem with a prominent professor whos background he wouldnt have known. He was not running for president at that time and checking backgrounds. When faced with it - he decried it. If you found your friend had done something bad years ago I think you'd do the same thing. I don't approve of what they did but I'm not going to apologize for my association.

The church thing . . . I'll admit there's a problem there somewhere. If he continued to go to that church after some of those things went on then maybe there is a problem. It would be more important to me if I knew for a fact he was aware of all of that. I have belonged to churchs I didnt attend much and I can see where later someone could say . . . but this was YOUR church.

Personally I think the Black community - much like the Spanish community - or the Middle Eastern community, Irish community, Italian community, etc. tends to stick together and promote their cause at any cost. It's just human nature.

Its like being a Patriots fan and then being a Bronco fan cause you moved to Denver. Did you say bad things about the Broncos before you were a part of thier culture ? maybe not yourself but did others around you that you listened to say bad things about the Patriots and you simply accepted cause well they were Patriots fans.

I think Obama comes from a world where those things happen and you can walk away and refuse to be a part of it or like Clay you can learn to deal with it on your own level and hope to create change. I'd like to think that might be what we are seeing. I could be wrong of course.


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PostSubject: Re: Obama's Aunt Living in U.S. Illegally   Mon Nov 03, 2008 1:37 pm

Morgan Rowan wrote:
No ones giving him a free pass here

come on guys

Why is it his business to know the legal status of his families immigration. Honestly now, do you call your aunt to ask her if she's in the country legally ?????????

And he SHOULD NOT use his political standing to find out either - that would really offend me.

I'm not saying the guy is a saint - not even saying I'm voting for him but take a step back on this one really - this is no shadow on Obama's character whatsoever.




Do you think less of Jennifer Hudson cause her brother in law is a murderer ? It's no reflection on her as this is no reflection on Obama.

I'm sure there is plenty of reasonable dirt to center on with him but surely this is not.





I guess we haven't been reading the same stories that have been breaking about this man. As Renee has stated it is a continual display the people he associates with, his judgements in regards to those said individuals land the constant I didn't know that game. He isn't capable of using the I didn't know game sparingly at all and when he does use it its a what did he just say moment. No i don't trust his judgement, I don't trust his past and his present associations and I think he will be deadly for this country. Read what is happening with his statements on the coal industry. I am shocked right now that this guy has gotten as far as he has. And i still want to know how he did it.
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PostSubject: Re: Obama's Aunt Living in U.S. Illegally   Mon Nov 03, 2008 1:37 pm

No I don't know what to say.....
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PostSubject: Re: Obama's Aunt Living in U.S. Illegally   Mon Nov 03, 2008 3:26 pm

Renee wrote:
amainachen wrote:

your right Jane is this had happened to McCain/Palin they would have nailed their carcasses to the wall. As for him not knowing this woman he sure talked about her in his book. Why bother saying such wonderful things about her if you don't know her. This is the man who will be guiding us. I am literally sick to my stomach. He can't be trusted and he will have knowledge of all our secrets. i just hope we make it through the next 4 years.

It genuinely scares me how many people are willing to give this man a pass on everything. I am just praying that the polls have been wrong. Our country could possibly take a very bad turn tomorrow. I have too much faith in America to say it would be ruined forever, but I see us working a long time to undo the damage that could come from this man being elected.

Like I said, I am still holding out hope!

Renee and Amain,
It's almost unbelieveable that someone like Obama with his ties to so many questionable people is literally getting a free pass.

I am yet to see anyone come up with even one person connected to McCain that is connected to Terrorism, Domestically or Internationally.

Obama has ties to so many quesionable people. And it isn't just one person, it's many.

He also has ties to Radicals, Racists, Bigots, and American Citizens that hate America.

What has happened to the people in the United States? Remember the day when the slightest little thing could ruin a campaign?

Did anyone ever think that the day would come when it would be acceptable for a person that has friends as terrorists and radicals to become President? Who would have thought American people would embrace such a person?

How on earth do American people believe a person that has lied time and time again.

How can they believe he will keep this country safe from terrorism when he has close friends that are terrorists? He is friends with a person that was a spokesperson for the PLO for goodness sake. Do Jews honestly believe he will keep Isreal safe?

Ayers not too long ago said he wished he had bombed more places than they did.

The list of the most vile people in his life is unbelievable. And people buy his crap. He has zero leadership skills, he has zero experience, and he isn't the person American People would even have as a friend, yet they want him to be the leader of the country.

AM I scared? Yes I am. I will pray too. This will mean the end of the world as we know it today!

We know right from wrong, and God is testing us right now. There is a right person, and there is a wrong person - Think of as Good Verses Evil if you like. We know McCain is a good person, and many of us know that Obama is not such a good person.

Too many things have come out about Obama and yet people are ignoring it. They aren't lies, they have been proven. Even ACORN which is bad to the core is being ignored.

I don't know what to say anymore except to those of you that see the truth to hang in there and vote for the person that you know is the right person, it wont matter if he doesn't win, because in the end you will have won. It will all come to light in about three and a half years, but you will be ok.
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PostSubject: Re: Obama's Aunt Living in U.S. Illegally   Mon Nov 03, 2008 3:36 pm

Well I think you'll find human nature is such that people listen to that kind of talk about someone and jump to their defense.

result . . . Obama wins.

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PostSubject: Re: Obama's Aunt Living in U.S. Illegally   Mon Nov 03, 2008 3:44 pm

Morgan Rowan wrote:
Well lets look at this one thing.

He said simply that she needs to deal with the laws from what I saw. He was suggesting no special treatment for her. That seems right to me.

As for the rest - I dont see a problem with a prominent professor whos background he wouldnt have known. He was not running for president at that time and checking backgrounds. When faced with it - he decried it. If you found your friend had done something bad years ago I think you'd do the same thing. I don't approve of what they did but I'm not going to apologize for my association.

The church thing . . . I'll admit there's a problem there somewhere. If he continued to go to that church after some of those things went on then maybe there is a problem. It would be more important to me if I knew for a fact he was aware of all of that. I have belonged to churchs I didnt attend much and I can see where later someone could say . . . but this was YOUR church.

Personally I think the Black community - much like the Spanish community - or the Middle Eastern community, Irish community, Italian community, etc. tends to stick together and promote their cause at any cost. It's just human nature.

Its like being a Patriots fan and then being a Bronco fan cause you moved to Denver. Did you say bad things about the Broncos before you were a part of thier culture ? maybe not yourself but did others around you that you listened to say bad things about the Patriots and you simply accepted cause well they were Patriots fans.

I think Obama comes from a world where those things happen and you can walk away and refuse to be a part of it or like Clay you can learn to deal with it on your own level and hope to create change. I'd like to think that might be what we are seeing. I could be wrong of course.

Morgan,

Where are you coming up with all of these excuses? What's with all this "Community" stuff you have come up with?

I am 100% Irish born and raised, my husband is 100% Italian born and raised, I have no "community I stick with, neither does my husband. I have Muslim friends and they have no "community" they stick with.........We like to believe we are smart and can think for ourselves.

The difference with some of the other groups that you say "stick together" is that some of those people have an agenda.

What "world" are you claiming Obama is from? He is an American Citizen. He didn't grow up in Chicago, he chose to move to Chicago for his own self interest. I never thought I would ever see you making excuses that don't hold water for someone that is such a liar and as far as I am concerned dangerous, he has zero experience to be a Senator never mind President.

You have chosen to look the other way as far as his connections to Ayers and Khalidi, he is very close to these people.

He is very close to Wright, Pfliger and ACORN. I love you Morgan, but open your eyes.
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PostSubject: Re: Obama's Aunt Living in U.S. Illegally   Mon Nov 03, 2008 3:55 pm

America will wake up when this guy is in office and America as we know it now will be no more. Get ready people for a "change" we will live to regret. My husband is afraid and he was in Viet Nam for four years in combat.
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PostSubject: Re: Obama's Aunt Living in U.S. Illegally   Mon Nov 03, 2008 3:59 pm

We shall see
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