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PostSubject: It Was Touching To See How Much Obama Loves His Grandmother   Thu Oct 23, 2008 3:32 am

It really was very touching. Watching him on Ellen today, dancing, joking around and just plain having fun was so touching.

He preferred to continue campaigning rather than visit his Grandmother. Then yesterday he decided to let loose and have some fun on Ellen. It was taped yesterday and aired today. Today it was back to business as usual and the campaign continued.

She broke her hip and was in the Hospital and he didn't go see her.
He apparently didn't make it known about her breaking her hip until after she was home.

She is now home and it has been reported that she is GRAVELY ILL and he still hasn't gone to see her. He has said he plans on going to see her, but if she is as sick as the reports say she is she could be dead by the time he eventually makes it there.

His sister is there with her helping to take care of her. Family mean nothing to Obama. That was apparent when we got to see how poor his brother is in Kenya and the horrible living conditions he has. And here is Obama a millionaire. Guess "share the wealth" is not for him.....He wouldn't have to give a lot in order to make his brothers live a million times better.

While he was on vacation a while back in Hawaii did he visit his family? Did he invite the media to introduce his family to the American People? Especially his Grandmother that raised him. All he had to do was have a photo taken with him, his sister, Grandmother and whatever other family members are there. Did anyone ever catch a photo of his girls in a photo with their Great Grandmother? What about one with her, Michelle, Obama and the girls?
All the photo's that are shown of his Grandmother are old. Obama is quite young in them.

Maybe the fact that she is White is something is something he is ashamed of. Maybe he doesn't want certain people to be reminded of of his White side of his family.
After all, he is Bi-Racial, which he doesn't ever mention. His Grandmother
deserves better than to be so unimportant to him. I think he is ashamed of her.

I feel so sad for that sweet woman that raised him for most of his life. She deserves better than him as a grandson, she most certainly deserves respect of which he has none for her!
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PostSubject: Re: It Was Touching To See How Much Obama Loves His Grandmother   Thu Oct 23, 2008 11:35 am

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From CBS News' Maria Gavrilovic:

(INDIANAPOLIS) Barack Obama heads to Hawaii this afternoon to visit his beloved grandmother, Madelyn Dunham. Dunham has become seriously ill, prompting the Democratic nominee to leave the campaign trail just 12 days before the election. This morning on CBS' "The Early Show", Obama told Harry Smith that he it was important for him to see his grandmother while she is still alert.

“My grandmother's the last one left,” Obama said.

He also expressed regret for not being by his mother’s bedside when she passed away in 1995.

“Yeah, got there too late. You know, I mean, it was sort of like this, in the sense that she had a terminal illness. We knew-- she wasn't doing well. But you know, the diagnosis was such that we thought we had a little more time, and we didn't,” Obama said, “And so I want to make sure that I don't make the same mistake twice.”

Obama spent much of his childhood in Hawaii and was raised by his mother, Ann Dunham, with help from her parents, the ailing Madelyn and the late Stanley Dunham.

Obama was supposed to be campaigning in Wisconsin and Iowa today, but his events were canceled after he got the news about his grandmother. Instead, he has will attend a rally at the American Legion Mall in Indianapolis before taking off for Hawaii.

Obama said, what, yesterday? late Tuesday? ....that he was going to Hawaii to see his Grandmother on Thursday and Friday.

My dad died at this time two years ago. I was teaching a class where people had come from great distances and at great expense to attend. I felt a commitment to those students, and a commitment to my dad, hospitalized and sick with cancer. Could I, should I, leave the class and abandon my students? Or was my dad going to be fine, the doctor said he could live for six more months. It was agonizing, and I was on the phone three times a day for a week with my dad, my sister (a nurse, and out there with my dad), his doctor and his girlfriend. I prayed, I cried. At the end of the class, I boarded a plane and flew out. He died while I was on the plane.

Obama is doing the best he can. I am beyond dumbfounded that anyone would think to question the decisions relating to a grandson and his grandmother in issues like this. And no, I would not think to question McCain or Palin if they were in similar circumstances.
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PostSubject: Re: It Was Touching To See How Much Obama Loves His Grandmother   Thu Oct 23, 2008 4:15 pm

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From CBS News' Maria Gavrilovic:

(INDIANAPOLIS) Barack Obama heads to Hawaii this afternoon to visit his beloved grandmother, Madelyn Dunham. Dunham has become seriously ill, prompting the Democratic nominee to leave the campaign trail just 12 days before the election. This morning on CBS' "The Early Show", Obama told Harry Smith that he it was important for him to see his grandmother while she is still alert.

“My grandmother's the last one left,” Obama said.

He also expressed regret for not being by his mother’s bedside when she passed away in 1995.

“Yeah, got there too late. You know, I mean, it was sort of like this, in the sense that she had a terminal illness. We knew-- she wasn't doing well. But you know, the diagnosis was such that we thought we had a little more time, and we didn't,” Obama said, “And so I want to make sure that I don't make the same mistake twice.”

Obama spent much of his childhood in Hawaii and was raised by his mother, Ann Dunham, with help from her parents, the ailing Madelyn and the late Stanley Dunham.

Obama was supposed to be campaigning in Wisconsin and Iowa today, but his events were canceled after he got the news about his grandmother. Instead, he has will attend a rally at the American Legion Mall in Indianapolis before taking off for Hawaii.

Obama said, what, yesterday? late Tuesday? ....that he was going to Hawaii to see his Grandmother on Thursday and Friday.

My dad died at this time two years ago. I was teaching a class where people had come from great distances and at great expense to attend. I felt a commitment to those students, and a commitment to my dad, hospitalized and sick with cancer. Could I, should I, leave the class and abandon my students? Or was my dad going to be fine, the doctor said he could live for six more months. It was agonizing, and I was on the phone three times a day for a week with my dad, my sister (a nurse, and out there with my dad), his doctor and his girlfriend. I prayed, I cried. At the end of the class, I boarded a plane and flew out. He died while I was on the plane.

Obama is doing the best he can. I am beyond dumbfounded that anyone would think to question the decisions relating to a grandson and his grandmother in issues like this. And no, I would not think to question McCain or Palin if they were in similar circumstances.

There is no excuse for him to have waited all week.
(never mind that he didn't go see her when she broke her hip and was in the
hospital)
She has been in critical condition. This is the woman that raised and loved
him.

He has the means and way to hop on his own plane at the drop of a hat and
go see her.
To him this campaign comes before anything, nothing else matters to him.
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PostSubject: Re: It Was Touching To See How Much Obama Loves His Grandmother   Thu Oct 23, 2008 4:42 pm

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Sen. Barack Obama will take off two days from his campaign this week, less than two weeks before Election Day, for an urgent visit to his ailing grandmother in Hawaii, the Democratic presidential candidate's campaign announced tonight.

Madelyn Dunham, 85, has been ill for some time, but her condition in recent days has grown "very serious," said campaign adviser Robert Gibbs. She was released from a Hawaii hospital late last week, he said, and Sen. Obama will fly there Thursday "so that he can see her and spend some time with her," Mr. Gibbs said.

This is from the Wall street Journal. I see nothing to indicate that her condition has been ongoingly critical or is even currectly critical. It looks like she was hositalized for a broken hip, released from the hospital (her granddaughter, Obama's sister, is with her. She is not alone.) when her condition became more severe, Obama arranged to suspend his campaign for two days, and as quickly as possible, (within 36 hours),flew out to spend time with her.

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He has the means and way to hop on his own plane at the drop of a hat and go see her.
Except now the deal is some Republicans are complaining that he didn't fly on a commercial airline..... Sad

I see nothng wrong with any part of the way he handled this very personal and private issue.
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PostSubject: Re: It Was Touching To See How Much Obama Loves His Grandmother   Thu Oct 23, 2008 5:17 pm

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Sen. Barack Obama will take off two days from his campaign this week, less than two weeks before Election Day, for an urgent visit to his ailing grandmother in Hawaii, the Democratic presidential candidate's campaign announced tonight.

Madelyn Dunham, 85, has been ill for some time, but her condition in recent days has grown "very serious," said campaign adviser Robert Gibbs. She was released from a Hawaii hospital late last week, he said, and Sen. Obama will fly there Thursday "so that he can see her and spend some time with her," Mr. Gibbs said.

This is from the Wall street Journal. I see nothing to indicate that her condition has been ongoingly critical or is even currectly critical. It looks like she was hositalized for a broken hip, released from the hospital (her granddaughter, Obama's sister, is with her. She is not alone.) when her condition became more severe, Obama arranged to suspend his campaign for two days, and as quickly as possible, (within 36 hours),flew out to spend time with her.

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He has the means and way to hop on his own plane at the drop of a hat and go see her.
Except now the deal is some Republicans are complaining that he didn't fly on a commercial airline..... Sad

I see nothng wrong with any part of the way he handled this very personal and private issue.

I know Sponge, the man can do no wrong. It was reported that his

Grandmother was in "Critical" condition.You may not have seen it, but I
did.
It amazes me that everything about him is "Personal and Private"
LOL


Yet everything about Sarah Palin and her Family is "Public" .....Not only
has she been trashed by the media and much of the public, but her family has
also been dragged through the mud too..
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PostSubject: Re: It Was Touching To See How Much Obama Loves His Grandmother   Thu Oct 23, 2008 5:40 pm

To question Obama's love for his Grandmother and his committment to her is just about the lowest petty thing I have heard or read in this campaign. No one knows what he is thinking or going through at this time.
Statements like this and people shouting kill him at Republican rallies makes me ashamed to be a registered Republican and Yes I will be voting for Obama.

I'm sorry if that upsets anyone, but that is totally uncalled for.

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PostSubject: Re: It Was Touching To See How Much Obama Loves His Grandmother   Thu Oct 23, 2008 5:44 pm

I fear that if, and probably when, Obama is elected, the combination of liberal president + liberal congress + liberal media will mean trouble in our country like nobody wants to see.

It's been joked about, but the media truly does treat this man like the messiah...and I've yet to see any of his supporters acknowledge his flaws. He lied about public financing, he makes promises that are simply illogical (you can't cut taxes, increase spending AND lower the deficit) and he DOES want to put our country on the path to Socialism (spread the wealth around anyone?). Also, he DOES have very suspicious ties to Ayers, ACORN, Wright, and have you seen the video about his relationship with Raila Odinga, the murderous Kenyan leader (and his cousin)? It's something you really should watch.

Did you hear the Dems are ordering up extra police in Oakland, DC, Detroit, etc, for the "rioting" if Obama loses? Nothing like a subtle threat there.

It's been said that there will be no backlash like the backlash when conservative Americans finally say ENOUGH. I pray that Conservative Americans will stand up now, on election day, and not wait for that ENOUGH to day to come!
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PostSubject: Re: It Was Touching To See How Much Obama Loves His Grandmother   Thu Oct 23, 2008 5:47 pm

Jane, I would think that ones grandmother's being ill and possibly near death would be considered personal and private.

I've never said anything about Palin daughter's pregnancy, that is also personal and private.

I've also said nothing about McCain's relationship with his wife. Personal and private.

This has nothing to do with thinking Obama is perfect and can do no wrong, just having an opinion on where the line into his personal life is crossed.

The "critical" diagnosis has been bandied about, but the official Obama press release said "more severe", so I'll go with that. Everything I've seen indicates that her condition worsened within the past week, not that she languished on death's door for months without any responce from Obama. uns
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PostSubject: Re: It Was Touching To See How Much Obama Loves His Grandmother   Thu Oct 23, 2008 5:52 pm

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To question Obama's love for his Grandmother and his committment to her is just about the lowest petty thing I have heard or read in this campaign. No one knows what he is thinking or going through at this time.
Statements like this and people shouting kill him at Republican rallies makes me ashamed to be a registered Republican and Yes I will be voting for Obama.

I'm sorry if that upsets anyone, but that is totally uncalled for.

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Pumpkin, nobody ever shouted "kill him" at a rally. The secret service investigated and it never happened. Just another story that's been put out there to paint Republicans as racist.

Also, although I don't question his love for his grandmother, he has repeatedly presented himself as a black man. He denies his white heritage. If you like the man on his issues, fine, but don't let the liberal lies trick you into believing this crap they're spewing about Republicans.
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PostSubject: Re: It Was Touching To See How Much Obama Loves His Grandmother   Thu Oct 23, 2008 5:58 pm

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To question Obama's love for his Grandmother and his committment to her is just about the lowest petty thing I have heard or read in this campaign. No one knows what he is thinking or going through at this time.
Statements like this and people shouting kill him at Republican rallies makes me ashamed to be a registered Republican and Yes I will be voting for Obama.

I'm sorry if that upsets anyone, but that is totally uncalled for.

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Pumpkin, nobody ever shouted "kill him" at a rally. The secret service investigated and it never happened. Just another story that's been put out there to paint Republicans as racist.

Also, although I don't question his love for his grandmother, he has repeatedly presented himself as a black man. He denies his white heritage. If you like the man on his issues, fine, but don't let the liberal lies trick you into believing this crap they're spewing about Republicans.

Renee, I heard the video with someone calling out "kill him."

The SS might not have thought it was important enough to take the investigation further, but it did happen. There were also shouts of terrorist and Arab, amongst others. If you'd like, I'll see if I can post it for you.


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PostSubject: Re: It Was Touching To See How Much Obama Loves His Grandmother   Thu Oct 23, 2008 6:00 pm

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PostSubject: Re: It Was Touching To See How Much Obama Loves His Grandmother   Thu Oct 23, 2008 6:03 pm

If as you say he is denying his white heritage, why is he posting pictures of his white mother in his TV commercials.

And on one of the news shows from a Palin rally, what I heard with my own ears, sure sounded like Kill him to me.

I think there is a lot of mis-information out there on both sides and I tend to believe things I hear over what I read.
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PostSubject: Re: It Was Touching To See How Much Obama Loves His Grandmother   Thu Oct 23, 2008 6:08 pm

i've thought about that. possible rioting in the event Obama loses the election. i am hoping that this sort of violent form of protest won't happen again. haven't we learned from the past?? Sad

i believe this election is but a formality, Renee. Obama has a strong lead in the polls. there are several Red states that are turning Blue, per latest reports i heard today. i think McCain/Palin have run out of time, unless something really damaging about O surfaces in the next 2 weeks....

i never heard of a link between Obama/Odinga.. but if he is a Kenyan leader, i'm not surprised they know each other. Obama has visited Kenya several times, right? i know nothing about Odinga. i'm almost afraid to find out about him and his ties to Obama. why must O fraterinize with unsavory people? there's quite a list! it's so unsettling. what also makes me nervous is the thumbs up for Obama given by leaders of the Arab nation. and Chavez! shouldn't we be concerned about who they prefer to be sitting in the White House?? sniff
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PostSubject: Re: It Was Touching To See How Much Obama Loves His Grandmother   Thu Oct 23, 2008 6:13 pm

And, by the way I am one of those Republicans and I am not a racist. I will be supporting some of our local Republicans.
I tend to vote for the person not just the party.
I am much older than most of you and it always has been no matter who the party runs you have to support them. Not in my book.
I have been a Republican all my life. Starting with "I Like Ike" back in the 50's.
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PostSubject: Re: It Was Touching To See How Much Obama Loves His Grandmother   Thu Oct 23, 2008 6:20 pm

Just a gentle reminder that we can't be responsible for "everyones" opinions or the media. Try to keep comments directed at a poster relating to what that poster actually said.

(does that make sense???) In other words, let's not put "all Obama" or "all McCain" supporters into the same pot.

And just TRY to be nice.....ok, then....
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PostSubject: Re: It Was Touching To See How Much Obama Loves His Grandmother   Thu Oct 23, 2008 6:23 pm

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To question Obama's love for his Grandmother and his committment to her is just about the lowest petty thing I have heard or read in this campaign. No one knows what he is thinking or going through at this time.
Statements like this and people shouting kill him at Republican rallies makes me ashamed to be a registered Republican and Yes I will be voting for Obama.

I'm sorry if that upsets anyone, but that is totally uncalled for.

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You call my questioning his love for his Grandmother "lowest petty thing I
have heard or read in this campaign"



Are you kidding me? May I ask where you have been for the last few months?
I guess people dragging Palin and her children through the mud is ok by you?
They have picked her apart limb by limb and you don't think that is low?



As far as the "Kill Him" rumor that went around, the Secret Service said
that never happened. Imagine me saying that he should have been to see his
Grandmother well before now is "Low and Petty" Why does it not bother you that
he ahs a very unsettling past? Why does it not bother you that he admits to
being a drug addict? Why does it not bother you that he has lied about his
associations with some very dangerous people?

Vote for Obama, you will have to live with you decision. You will one day
wonder why you didn't question his decisions, why you ignored the warning signs.




It is absolutely disgusting that he went on Ellen and danced, joked around,
and had a blast yesterday.

Yes I question his love for his Grandmother. I question who the real Barack
H. Obama is. I question the people he calls his friends. I question his lies.I
question his unsavory past. I question why people ignore the obvious truth that
he is not who he wants everyone to believe he is and follow him blindly.
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PostSubject: Re: It Was Touching To See How Much Obama Loves His Grandmother   Thu Oct 23, 2008 6:23 pm

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Al Qaeda Members Hoping for McCain Presidency

http://www.huliq.com/3257/71137/al-qaeda-endorses-john-mccain-president.....

Again, only posted to offset the posting of others in other countries that may or may not support the candidates.


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PostSubject: Re: It Was Touching To See How Much Obama Loves His Grandmother   Thu Oct 23, 2008 6:24 pm

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i never heard of a link between Obama/Odinga.. but if he is a Kenyan leader, i'm not surprised they know each other. Obama has visited Kenya several times, right? i know nothing about Odinga. i'm almost afraid to find out about him and his ties to Obama. why must O fraterinize with unsavory people? there's quite a list! it's so unsettling. what also makes me nervous is the thumbs up for Obama given by leaders of the Arab nation. and Chavez! shouldn't we be concerned about who they prefer to be sitting in the White House?? sniff

Coo, this is scary stuff, really. This seems to be a lot more than "knowing" him. I wish the mainstream media would play this, but that would mess with their messianic vision...grrrr....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1P_P8lBCsE

It seems to me that Obama has a long list of unsavory associations...and I will never understand why he's given a pass on all of it.
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PostSubject: Re: It Was Touching To See How Much Obama Loves His Grandmother   Thu Oct 23, 2008 6:25 pm

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Al Qaeda Members Hoping for McCain Presidency

http://www.huliq.com/3257/71137/al-qaeda-endorses-john-mccain-president.....

Again, only posted to offset the posting of other leaders in other countries that may or may not support the candidates.

Yes, but spongie, can you not see the difference here? Do you really think this is what al qaeda wants?
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PostSubject: Re: It Was Touching To See How Much Obama Loves His Grandmother   Thu Oct 23, 2008 6:27 pm

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And, by the way I am one of those Republicans and I am not a racist. I will be supporting some of our local Republicans.
I tend to vote for the person not just the party.
I am much older than most of you and it always has been no matter who the party runs you have to support them. Not in my book.
I have been a Republican all my life. Starting with "I Like Ike" back in the 50's.

As a Republican, pumpkin, I sincerely want to know what he has said that you believe that would make you trust him more than McCain? I see him as a man who will say anything to get elected, promise the elderly health care, the young a lower deficit, family's lower taxes and the destitute free money. How on God's Green Earth can he provide that without gross wealth redistribution?
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PostSubject: Re: It Was Touching To See How Much Obama Loves His Grandmother   Thu Oct 23, 2008 6:30 pm

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Yes, but spongie, can you not see the difference here? Do you really think this is what al qaeda wants?

In 2004 it was reported that Al Qaeda supported John Kerry. It can't work both ways. If they support a Democratic candidate, that they want a weak president, but if they support a Republican, it's because they fear a Republican president.
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PostSubject: Re: It Was Touching To See How Much Obama Loves His Grandmother   Thu Oct 23, 2008 6:35 pm

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Al Qaeda Members Hoping for McCain Presidency

this is the first time i've read this anywhere. i'm going to read the link you supplied, Sponge.
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PostSubject: Re: It Was Touching To See How Much Obama Loves His Grandmother   Thu Oct 23, 2008 6:36 pm

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Yes, but spongie, can you not see the difference here? Do you really think this is what al qaeda wants?

In 2004 it was reported that Al Qaeda supported John Kerry. It can't work both ways. If they support a Democratic candidate, that Democrat is palling around with terrorist, if they support a Republican, it's because they fear the Republican candidate...


Spongie, this isn't supposed to be about tit for tat. I don't CARE what happened with Kerry. That sort of thinking is so circular that nothing will ever get accomplished. Now if your point is that both sides suck, okay, you win.

Can we stick with what's happening in this election?
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PostSubject: Re: It Was Touching To See How Much Obama Loves His Grandmother   Thu Oct 23, 2008 6:38 pm

Renee wrote:
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Al Qaeda Members Hoping for McCain Presidency

http://www.huliq.com/3257/71137/al-qaeda-endorses-john-mccain-president.....

Again, only posted to offset the posting of other leaders in other countries that may or may not support the candidates.

Yes, but spongie, can you not see the difference here? Do you really think this is what al qaeda wants?

They don't want McCain in the White House. They are using reverse
Psychology. I have posted several of Obama's questionable associations with many
scary people. Not one person here has addressed or proven me wrong. In fact they
just flat out ignore it. They can't deny the allegations, so they pretend they
don't see them. Why is Obama's middle name off limits? What are people afraid
of? It's his name for goodness sake.
All of a sudden the name "Hussein" is the equivalent to the N word.Is
everyone with the name Hussein as a first name going to have to change their
name? Should they be worried because American's are afraid of the name?
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PostSubject: Re: It Was Touching To See How Much Obama Loves His Grandmother   Thu Oct 23, 2008 6:57 pm

Renee,
I am not going to go into all the specifics, But I decided right from the start I could not support McCain for many reasons and definately his past history. I'm sorry if that upsets you.

In the primary's in my area Mike Huckabee was still on the ballet, so I voted for him although he had already withdrawn from the race. I think he would have been a better choice IMO

Their have been big promises made on both sides and there is no way all of these promises can be met. That's just the way it has always been.

I voted for Bush and to me he has been a big disappointment.

I admire Obama and I think he is a very intelligent man and I put my trust in his platform over McCain's

For those who are upset by his speeches and his pauses, An intelligent man weighs his words carefully before blurting a bunch of words that don't make sense.

Here I go again, Sarah Palin, when asked a question that she doesn't know the answer to, starts to recite a rehearsed speach on anything at not even related to the question. And yes I heard this with my own ears. And IMO she is not ready to be in the White House.

I don't think any of us is going to sway another's vote at this point. There is always a lot of nastiness that comes out in the final days. I just hope everyone takes it all with a grain of salt.

Good Luck to everyones candidate and may the best man win for the sake of our country.

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